You are so sweet beverly!!! I know i dont comment too much but i only get to check my journal and comments once or twice a week but ill try and comment more i do read your journal though!!!! heeh 🙂 I usually write normal is real life and as im always on the go i just type in short point in my journal im lazy i know haha BUT we definetly have to meet up!! I LOVE IT HOW WERE SO SIMILAR AS WELL 😉 but your definetly the make up queen!!! mwa 😉
Hehe it’d be awesome to catch up.. my exams finish just before mid-July, will you be free around then? We can meet up in the city or Chatswood or something for a blast around the shops, or we can organise something where other *ahem* like-minded girls like us can get together for a shop. I’ve met a couple of awesome girls on Vogue/MUA that I always meet up with, I’m sure you’ll like them too!
You are so sweet beverly!!! I know i dont comment too much but i only get to check my journal and comments once or twice a week but ill try and comment more i do read your journal though!!!! heeh 🙂 I usually write normal is real life and as im always on the go i just type in short point in my journal im lazy i know haha BUT we definetly have to meet up!! I LOVE IT HOW WERE SO SIMILAR AS WELL 😉 but your definetly the make up queen!!! mwa 😉
Hehe it’d be awesome to catch up.. my exams finish just before mid-July, will you be free around then? We can meet up in the city or Chatswood or something for a blast around the shops, or we can organise something where other *ahem* like-minded girls like us can get together for a shop. I’ve met a couple of awesome girls on Vogue/MUA that I always meet up with, I’m sure you’ll like them too!
AWWWW!!! 😀 *hugs*
ME TOO! I feel so loved. *MUAK* beverly.
turns out, it was more like about 90 bucks USD… =(
Anyway, I think if I don’t get payment within one month, she’s going to have to find some way to vomit it out. I think I’ve waited long ehoguh. So happy though you sold your becca blush!
You’re going to believe this.. she wrote me an email bitching about you, saying you took ages to reply to her, etc. I’m going to write back and say even if you were a COMPLETE BITCH to her, she has no reason to complain because SHE’S the one who took over a year (!!) to pay you back. And I’m going to say that if you ever posted this on MUA, who are the MUAers going to support? Can’t believe she actually tried to turn the tables on you and say you were the evil person :O
I’d insist she pay you back of you’ll be calling her parents. Her address is easily available (can ask any of her previous swappers or people that she still owes) and from there you can find out her # easily enough.
LOL..OMG. when was this?
this is so funny. she’s been seemingly nice lately…we’ll see.
when are you going back to SG and for how long? i think ill give her a deadline. if i dont get money by so and so ill send beverly over, LOL. 🙂 heheheh..
Like 1 or 2 days ago! Went into a whole spiel about you.. I think she’s barmy. MAKE SURE she pays you back k? It makes me boil to see her take advantage of you for a year..;(
Will be back in SG mid-july 😛
VUNDAFOOOOL! If I’m not paid by then I’m bringing out my bitch-side..No kidding. =\ Supposedly, I already am to her, so I guess, is there any word to describe it?….
=) Whatever. I just know never to deal with her again. I think in the long run, I’m still going to leave her a neutral. Though, she’s probably going to leave me a retaliatory. =\ =\
Here ya go… I didn’t tell her I’m sending you this so don’t mention this to her if possible k? Just start getting quite serious and firm with her. I was nice and sweet for 4 months and she jerked me around. THen the instant I got pissed off and posted about her, she was MORE than happy to send me the money. Ugh
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Hi Gayle,
You see, regardless of how the other swapper is.. if she were to make it public on Swap Tawk or on the MUA boards that she was waiting a year for you to pay her back, everyone would say you were at fault. If you sent her a bank draft but it didn’t get to her, she would say she received no payment, which is true. And that only takes a week or two, so you can cancel it and send a money order or cash straight after, which would mean you would take a month max to pay her back. I don’t see how you can justify taking 15 months to pay someone back – it’s really not that difficult to send money that you already owe!
As far as I know, she’s been patient with you but I don’t think she’s going to wait any longer, especially after she heard about the same problem I had. For her sake and your sake, PLEASE pay her back this week and dont’ drag it on any longer – really, it would make everyone’s jaws drop if she posted publicly and said you haven’t paid her back after 15 months, yet you’ve been arranging other cp’s and swapping the entire time. It’s like a slap in the face and if I were her, I would be calling your parents up and demanding to be paid back, because over a year is just unbelievable 🙁
I hope you’ll do the mature and right thing about this. That swapper is also a student and doesn’t deserve to be lied to and taken advantage of for over a year.
Beverly
—–Original Message—–
From: Gayle Khoo [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, 5 June 2003 2:28 PM
To: BEVERLY =)
Subject: Becca blush
oh dear beverly.
for jenbabe’s case, please ask her specifically whether we made payment in the first place. =| it’s just upsetting and irritating to keep explaining the story behind it all. It’s not abt whether me and my friend have the money to pay her or what..it’s just a matter of fact that we did SEND HER A bank draft but the thing went missing halfway. And so, of course jen claimed we didnt make payment. It’s very complicating which is why , it’s over a year now that we havent settled it. Cos the purchase was made by me and another friend. If u remember Lela. -she did a swap with you of the VS bikini long time ago…yeah. And in case you’re not aware, Jen has an attitude problem with settling purchases. She’s one of those who takes helluva long time to reply a single mail and end up waiting for weeks later then reply and came up with sickening xcuses like she’s down with cold and bad flu..hello? U think we’re that patient to wait for your mails ? well, all i hav to say is, she herself too, have bad swap ettiquette, but dont pretend/act so angelic as if you’re all good but in fact, she isint. =] Sorry bev, since u mentioned about jen’s case, i’d to tell you the whole story. And now that, you’ve had a really bad experience with me, and that i’m on bad swapper list, the rest of the girls are gonna rule me out. But i cant do anything about it..yeah?
Hear you soon.
Gayle
aww *feels loved* and feeling loved right now means a ton. 🙂 You’re the sweetest bev.
AWWWW!!! 😀 *hugs*
Aww I feel the same way! I actually admire the fact that you are not into politics, your normal in my world. Everyone I know talks about USA politics and well.. It gets rather boring, which is why I post them on my journal so that I dont get carried away in real life.
USA Politics creates enemies more then friends, so your in a perfect position everyone loves you and its because your real. You like make up like all of us girls and you love style and beauty like us girls and cooking those fab meals and deserts and your day to day life is always so fun to read.
I often read your journal and I think “Man I bet its nice to get out and have fun like that” I dont get much freedom because I have kids so its fun reading about you taking advantage of yours!
And your pictures are always so cool, I love the family pictures, I always wonder what it would be like to meet them!!
I think we have been online friends for almost 2 years? I could be wrong but I remember you from a website called http://www.laundromatic.net (you know the “dont have a different opinion then us” group)! LOL im kidding…. Ok… No im serious! LOL.
Heh.. “normal” to you, but “uninformed and oblivious” to others. I don’t really care though – I openly admit I’m not a scrap interested in politics. I don’t know a bit about US politics and know minimal stuff about SG/AU politics. Just doesn’t seem to bother me but I guess I’ll sit up and take notice of issues once they start affecting me.. like when I start working and having children.
You don’t get much opportunity to just do whatever you want, but you DO have 2 gorgeous kids instead.. somehow, I know what I’d choose! Not yet for me though.. maybe in 5 years I’ll think about having kids 😛
*lmao* at the Laundro comment!! oh geez you’re funny 😛
😛 yeah I was the same way about politics when I was younger and single. I read a lot of books but I still didnt make up my mind about things until i was married!
ME TOO! I feel so loved. *MUAK* beverly.
turns out, it was more like about 90 bucks USD… =(
Anyway, I think if I don’t get payment within one month, she’s going to have to find some way to vomit it out. I think I’ve waited long ehoguh. So happy though you sold your becca blush!
You’re going to believe this.. she wrote me an email bitching about you, saying you took ages to reply to her, etc. I’m going to write back and say even if you were a COMPLETE BITCH to her, she has no reason to complain because SHE’S the one who took over a year (!!) to pay you back. And I’m going to say that if you ever posted this on MUA, who are the MUAers going to support? Can’t believe she actually tried to turn the tables on you and say you were the evil person :O
I’d insist she pay you back of you’ll be calling her parents. Her address is easily available (can ask any of her previous swappers or people that she still owes) and from there you can find out her # easily enough.
LOL..OMG. when was this?
this is so funny. she’s been seemingly nice lately…we’ll see.
when are you going back to SG and for how long? i think ill give her a deadline. if i dont get money by so and so ill send beverly over, LOL. 🙂 heheheh..
Like 1 or 2 days ago! Went into a whole spiel about you.. I think she’s barmy. MAKE SURE she pays you back k? It makes me boil to see her take advantage of you for a year..;(
Will be back in SG mid-july 😛
VUNDAFOOOOL! If I’m not paid by then I’m bringing out my bitch-side..No kidding. =\ Supposedly, I already am to her, so I guess, is there any word to describe it?….
=) Whatever. I just know never to deal with her again. I think in the long run, I’m still going to leave her a neutral. Though, she’s probably going to leave me a retaliatory. =\ =\
Here ya go… I didn’t tell her I’m sending you this so don’t mention this to her if possible k? Just start getting quite serious and firm with her. I was nice and sweet for 4 months and she jerked me around. THen the instant I got pissed off and posted about her, she was MORE than happy to send me the money. Ugh
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Hi Gayle,
You see, regardless of how the other swapper is.. if she were to make it public on Swap Tawk or on the MUA boards that she was waiting a year for you to pay her back, everyone would say you were at fault. If you sent her a bank draft but it didn’t get to her, she would say she received no payment, which is true. And that only takes a week or two, so you can cancel it and send a money order or cash straight after, which would mean you would take a month max to pay her back. I don’t see how you can justify taking 15 months to pay someone back – it’s really not that difficult to send money that you already owe!
As far as I know, she’s been patient with you but I don’t think she’s going to wait any longer, especially after she heard about the same problem I had. For her sake and your sake, PLEASE pay her back this week and dont’ drag it on any longer – really, it would make everyone’s jaws drop if she posted publicly and said you haven’t paid her back after 15 months, yet you’ve been arranging other cp’s and swapping the entire time. It’s like a slap in the face and if I were her, I would be calling your parents up and demanding to be paid back, because over a year is just unbelievable 🙁
I hope you’ll do the mature and right thing about this. That swapper is also a student and doesn’t deserve to be lied to and taken advantage of for over a year.
Beverly
—–Original Message—–
From: Gayle Khoo [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, 5 June 2003 2:28 PM
To: BEVERLY =)
Subject: Becca blush
oh dear beverly.
for jenbabe’s case, please ask her specifically whether we made payment in the first place. =| it’s just upsetting and irritating to keep explaining the story behind it all. It’s not abt whether me and my friend have the money to pay her or what..it’s just a matter of fact that we did SEND HER A bank draft but the thing went missing halfway. And so, of course jen claimed we didnt make payment. It’s very complicating which is why , it’s over a year now that we havent settled it. Cos the purchase was made by me and another friend. If u remember Lela. -she did a swap with you of the VS bikini long time ago…yeah. And in case you’re not aware, Jen has an attitude problem with settling purchases. She’s one of those who takes helluva long time to reply a single mail and end up waiting for weeks later then reply and came up with sickening xcuses like she’s down with cold and bad flu..hello? U think we’re that patient to wait for your mails ? well, all i hav to say is, she herself too, have bad swap ettiquette, but dont pretend/act so angelic as if you’re all good but in fact, she isint. =] Sorry bev, since u mentioned about jen’s case, i’d to tell you the whole story. And now that, you’ve had a really bad experience with me, and that i’m on bad swapper list, the rest of the girls are gonna rule me out. But i cant do anything about it..yeah?
Hear you soon.
Gayle
aww *feels loved* and feeling loved right now means a ton. 🙂 You’re the sweetest bev.
Aw! This made me feel special, like part of the “chosen 19” or something! 🙂 I remember back when I met you, you were sooo friendly! You still are, but I just remember specifically how kind you were because its a trait that people don’t display as openly nowadays, especially through the itnernet where its hard to sometimes, with text! Haha, what I would do to be 5’4 or 5’5 🙂 But at least there is no limit to high a heel I can wear! Anyway I am rambling now, this was a very good idea! If I didn’t have 139 friends listed (eep) I might’ve done the same thing. But God knows once I accidentally list 129 of them, the other 10 will be the first ones to say they are forgotten! This friends’ list sure is a project!
I won’t tell your secret about how you don’t add friends. 🙂
Heheh… “youuuu are part of the Chosen Ones” *lol*!!
I’m 5’4.5″ but trust me, it’s really not tall enough. And if my heels are too high, it looks like i’m overcompensating for something :X hey, do you actually read your friend’s list entries? I have less than 20 and there are about 3 pages worth ot entries made a day between everyone! Plus I’ll forget what’s happening in each person’s life if I add more 😛
I actually do read all my friend’s entries. 🙂 Lucky for me I spend a lot of time on my computer.. so I check my friend’s list a couple times a day, and its not too overwhelming… however, when I go to Nick’s for the weekend and come back, I admit I have to do some skimming in some journals, because there are seriously close to, if not over 200 entries for me to catch up on. I feel like I never stop hitting the “back” button!
My journal is a constant flux though. 🙂 I will add pretty much anyone who asks, but I kinda consider them a “trial run”… and if they don’t catch & keep my interest after a month or so I remove them… because I don’t think its fair for me to list them as a friend if I am not reading their entries/life. At any given time I probably have like 15-10% of my list as trial runners, lol! Then I’ll do an occasionally cut, where I cut the ones that I didn’t feel I could relate to.. and caught myself skimming a lot..
I’ve got this down to a science I tell you!!! 🙂
Man you have perseverance.. I’d just give up after about 2 pages worth 😛 Unless I’m procrastinating of course! And I don’t like to start reading a new journal too ‘cos I don’t know anything about the person.. that’s why I just never add any new friends. Maybe I’m antisocial 😉
But boy, your journal is like a production line *lol*!
Aww I feel the same way! I actually admire the fact that you are not into politics, your normal in my world. Everyone I know talks about USA politics and well.. It gets rather boring, which is why I post them on my journal so that I dont get carried away in real life.
USA Politics creates enemies more then friends, so your in a perfect position everyone loves you and its because your real. You like make up like all of us girls and you love style and beauty like us girls and cooking those fab meals and deserts and your day to day life is always so fun to read.
I often read your journal and I think “Man I bet its nice to get out and have fun like that” I dont get much freedom because I have kids so its fun reading about you taking advantage of yours!
And your pictures are always so cool, I love the family pictures, I always wonder what it would be like to meet them!!
I think we have been online friends for almost 2 years? I could be wrong but I remember you from a website called http://www.laundromatic.net (you know the “dont have a different opinion then us” group)! LOL im kidding…. Ok… No im serious! LOL.
Heh.. “normal” to you, but “uninformed and oblivious” to others. I don’t really care though – I openly admit I’m not a scrap interested in politics. I don’t know a bit about US politics and know minimal stuff about SG/AU politics. Just doesn’t seem to bother me but I guess I’ll sit up and take notice of issues once they start affecting me.. like when I start working and having children.
You don’t get much opportunity to just do whatever you want, but you DO have 2 gorgeous kids instead.. somehow, I know what I’d choose! Not yet for me though.. maybe in 5 years I’ll think about having kids 😛
*lmao* at the Laundro comment!! oh geez you’re funny 😛
😛 yeah I was the same way about politics when I was younger and single. I read a lot of books but I still didnt make up my mind about things until i was married!
Aww Bev! I’m so amused/touched! 🙂 You’ve been a great friend too and as always, your journal is so interested with posts of our similiar interests! 🙂 I do update more often now, but I’m thinking of moving coz soooo many people know about my journal its kinda freaky.
Yeah same here.. all my offline friends know, Chris knows, my parents regularly read it. I don’t really have secrets so it’s ok, but if I DO have a secret one day I can’t say it! 😛
hi Bev! this is a really sweet entry 🙂 Thanks for the well wishes! And your journal was one of the first few LJs I started reading and I still love reading your entries 🙂 *take care!*
Heh, really? I think we ‘found’ each other on MUA first though.. it’s fun meeting fellow Singaporeans or Australians online, I just feel ‘closer’ to them ‘cos we can talk about certain things that Americans won’t understand! (like local food :P)
yes that’s true! that’s how i got linked to your LJ! 🙂
awww….thats so sweet of you. i love reading your entries too! and hopefully we’ll get to hang out when i find time to visit sydney! 🙂
Ya, you gotta try and come to Sydney! ‘Cos I’m stuck here and going anywhere else is out of the question :T Orrr.. will you be in SG after exams anytime? ‘Cos I’ll be back, not sure of exact dates though – haven’t even booked my tix!
how long will you be back for? i will be going back but i’m not sure when. i’m currently applying for my PR and i wont be allowed to travel after my student visa expires in july. meaning i will have to stay in australia till my PR is granted.
Oooooo… I’m in the same position as you. Could you help me out a bit? I want to apply for PR now too, what do I have to do? Such as, don’t I have to graduate first so I can show them the bit of paper? My visa expires in July too…
I thought I could apply for PR in Singapore? Or is the only option to apply here and stay here ’till I get PR? Ahhh I wish this was easier!
Bev, you will have to wait till you get your results before you can apply. What you should do once you get your final result is to ask your school department to issue you a letter of completion (since at this point of time you wont have your testamur yet) and then send that plus your transcript to the Australian Computer Society to get yourself assessed. Do this ASAP coz the ACS can take up to 10 weeks to assess you. Check out the ACS website (i think its http://www.acs.org.au) for more info on getting assessed. Only after you get your assessment will you be able to apply for your PR.
You will have to apply for your PR within 6 months of graduation (meaning 6 months from the day you get your result, NOT when you receive your testamur). If not you will be required to fulfill the requirement of having at least 2,3 years full time work experience before you can apply. You will also need to get a medical checkup, xray, police checks with both the Australian Police and Singapore Police. You should do these while waiting for the ACS assessment to come back. Except for the check with the Singapore Police, you wont be able to do that till you send in your PR application coz they require an official letter stating the reason for you requesting the police check before they will do it.
I’m pretty sure you can do everything in Singapore if you like but it will probably be a lot easier and faster to get everything done here. Most students here apply for theirs while in Australia. You might want to find a migration agent to get some advice. Also when you apply for your PR, they will grant you a bridging visa that will allow you to stay in Australia till your PR is granted. You will not be able to travel out of Australia on this bridging visa. However if you want to travel during this period of time, I think you can apply for another type of visa but you’ll have to pay extra.
Anyway it’s quite a lot of stuff and can get a little overwhelming. Email me if you got more questions. 🙂
OMG that was *so* helpful, thank you!! Now at least I know where to start.. so that’s all I have to do? What are you up to atm? Hopefully I’ll get my final result straight after my exams and can start applying straightaway. It sounds like such a drawn-out process 🙁
Yeah it is a pretty long process. You can also check out the DIMIA website for more information on the PR application. If you go to the Immigration Department in Sydney you can purchase a booklet with the information you need with all the application forms inside. Think it cost around $10. I’m still waiting for my assessment from the ACS. My Masters course is not finished yet but I get a Graduate Diploma after 1 year of study so I’m using that to apply rather than wait till I get my final semester results. I’m getting a solicitor to help me out with my application though. Expensive but saves me from having to bother with all the details.
Man… I checked out immi.gov.au and my head’s spinning.. there’s so much stuff!! Can I safely assume I”ll make up the 115 needed for the Overseas Independant Skilled STudent requirement? That’s what you’re applying as as well, right?
I guess my first step is to get a transcript of my results when they come out and give it to ACS.. hopefully the results will be out in about a month like they usually are.
Hey btw, when you graduate, do you have to give a form into Uni to ask to graduate.. or would they just send me a letter going “Yay, you’ve graduated, here’s the details of your ceremony!”?
Man, it’s tedious… do you intend to live here though? I want to work here but only for a few years.. just getting PR as a sort of ‘buffer’ in case I decide to come back and work some more 🙂
yeah you should make it. as long as the ACS assesses you and gives you a nominated occupation worth 60 points you’ll be fine. you get another 30 points for your age, 20 for english language competency and another 5 for graduating in an australian uni i think.
when you graduate you have to fill in an award application form i believe. not sure about UNSW but my previous and current uni requires the same. you’ll have to fill in whether you’re attending the graduation ceremony, which one you’re planning on attending etc etc. just go to your admin office and ask for it. think you can probably fill it up now since it’s your last semester.
i’m not planning on staying here for good, probably work for a few years like you. my parents are currently in NZ so i’ll be closer to them over here in Australia. plus paul is here of coz. 🙂
I’m glad I qualify *whew*
But man, I wish they’d just go “come to your grad ceremony” and just knock on my door and give me my PR! I’m lazy 😛
You’re in an awesome situation.. I still don’t know what I’ll do. Guess I’ll stay wherever I’m offered a job. Dunno about Chris though 🙁
lol! i know what you mean too, its such a hassle! but i just got my assessment back today! so surprising coz it has only been about 5 weeks. anyway the letter said i’m eligible to apply under the occupation of systems programmer. bleah i hate programming but i dont actually have to go into the field of what’s nominated for it so doesnt matter. now i just need to go for my medical and xray. yay! 🙂
Wow that was quick! Ahh.. so the assessment actually tells you what occupation to list youself as eligible for, right? What degree did you do btw? I wonder if they’ll put something horrible for me :T
You’re lucky though, looks like you’ll get your PR real soon! Doyou know the average time of waiting after application to get it? i’m hoping am onth or something *crosses fingers*
i’m doing my master in IT now but i applied with my graduate diploma in software engineering which i got after doing 8 subjects.
you mean the waiting time after sending in your PR application? i’m not too sure but i have a friend who got his earlier this year and he said it took less than a month.
Ahhh… similar sort of degree to mine then, well, to do with computers anyway! I’m so happy I never have to program anything else for the rest of my life! Really sick of it…
Man, I hope I get my PR in a month or so, that would be fantastic! Heard it generally takes about 10 months tho 🙁
same here! i’m sick of programming too. its so boring to just sit in front of your computer all day and tear your hair out trying to debug your program.
10 months? thats awfully long! i’m pretty sure my friend started doing his in dec/jan and got it by april. so i would say whole process around 5 months max. basically once you send in your assessment application quickly go do your medical and police checks as well as get the rest of your documents ready. then once the assessment comes back you’ll be able to send your PR application out right away.
Aw! This made me feel special, like part of the “chosen 19” or something! 🙂 I remember back when I met you, you were sooo friendly! You still are, but I just remember specifically how kind you were because its a trait that people don’t display as openly nowadays, especially through the itnernet where its hard to sometimes, with text! Haha, what I would do to be 5’4 or 5’5 🙂 But at least there is no limit to high a heel I can wear! Anyway I am rambling now, this was a very good idea! If I didn’t have 139 friends listed (eep) I might’ve done the same thing. But God knows once I accidentally list 129 of them, the other 10 will be the first ones to say they are forgotten! This friends’ list sure is a project!
I won’t tell your secret about how you don’t add friends. 🙂
Heheh… “youuuu are part of the Chosen Ones” *lol*!!
I’m 5’4.5″ but trust me, it’s really not tall enough. And if my heels are too high, it looks like i’m overcompensating for something :X hey, do you actually read your friend’s list entries? I have less than 20 and there are about 3 pages worth ot entries made a day between everyone! Plus I’ll forget what’s happening in each person’s life if I add more 😛
I actually do read all my friend’s entries. 🙂 Lucky for me I spend a lot of time on my computer.. so I check my friend’s list a couple times a day, and its not too overwhelming… however, when I go to Nick’s for the weekend and come back, I admit I have to do some skimming in some journals, because there are seriously close to, if not over 200 entries for me to catch up on. I feel like I never stop hitting the “back” button!
My journal is a constant flux though. 🙂 I will add pretty much anyone who asks, but I kinda consider them a “trial run”… and if they don’t catch & keep my interest after a month or so I remove them… because I don’t think its fair for me to list them as a friend if I am not reading their entries/life. At any given time I probably have like 15-10% of my list as trial runners, lol! Then I’ll do an occasionally cut, where I cut the ones that I didn’t feel I could relate to.. and caught myself skimming a lot..
I’ve got this down to a science I tell you!!! 🙂
Man you have perseverance.. I’d just give up after about 2 pages worth 😛 Unless I’m procrastinating of course! And I don’t like to start reading a new journal too ‘cos I don’t know anything about the person.. that’s why I just never add any new friends. Maybe I’m antisocial 😉
But boy, your journal is like a production line *lol*!
awww .. *squee* that’s awfully sweet 🙂 hugs to you babe!
Huggies back! I was in a feel-the-love mood 🙂
Thanks 🙂 I like the way you write – interesting, very non-pretentious and you’re not afraid of saying what’s on your mind. Also, you’re into the girly stuffs too so that’s definitely a plus plus 🙂
Awww i’m glad you think that! Someone actually once (anonymous, of course) said I “talk to much about myself and my life”. But, er, it’s a JOURNAL.. where you’re supposed to talk about yourself, your thoughts, your activities during the day, etc.. didn’t really understand that 😉
Feeling so touched and sweet now. *^_^*
Okay… I’ll try to make my SG slang more understandable next time? heh! =P
Heheh nooo keep it the way it is ‘cos it’s fun to read! Just reminds me of home and my friends back home 🙂 Your “yaya swapper” was hilarious, hehehe
Wah kaoz, don’t mention that yaya swapper….
MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL.
So young and ignorant.. kiddos nowadays are so…. *strangles myself first*!
Yeah.. 99% of MUAers are nice, but 1% just make you go, “WHAT?!?!”
Good thing you didn’t work anything out with her!
Oh man, if that ever happens, I’ll prob. kill myself first! LOL
awww bev, we love u too 🙂
i still read your entries too! just too tired most of the time to comment, i’ll try and update more :p
Yeah, I ‘lurk’ a lot too.. most of the time I can’t think of anything intelligent or witty to say to people’s entries!
Aww Bev! I’m so amused/touched! 🙂 You’ve been a great friend too and as always, your journal is so interested with posts of our similiar interests! 🙂 I do update more often now, but I’m thinking of moving coz soooo many people know about my journal its kinda freaky.
Yeah same here.. all my offline friends know, Chris knows, my parents regularly read it. I don’t really have secrets so it’s ok, but if I DO have a secret one day I can’t say it! 😛
hi Bev! this is a really sweet entry 🙂 Thanks for the well wishes! And your journal was one of the first few LJs I started reading and I still love reading your entries 🙂 *take care!*
Heh, really? I think we ‘found’ each other on MUA first though.. it’s fun meeting fellow Singaporeans or Australians online, I just feel ‘closer’ to them ‘cos we can talk about certain things that Americans won’t understand! (like local food :P)
yes that’s true! that’s how i got linked to your LJ! 🙂
awww….thats so sweet of you. i love reading your entries too! and hopefully we’ll get to hang out when i find time to visit sydney! 🙂
Ya, you gotta try and come to Sydney! ‘Cos I’m stuck here and going anywhere else is out of the question :T Orrr.. will you be in SG after exams anytime? ‘Cos I’ll be back, not sure of exact dates though – haven’t even booked my tix!
how long will you be back for? i will be going back but i’m not sure when. i’m currently applying for my PR and i wont be allowed to travel after my student visa expires in july. meaning i will have to stay in australia till my PR is granted.
Oooooo… I’m in the same position as you. Could you help me out a bit? I want to apply for PR now too, what do I have to do? Such as, don’t I have to graduate first so I can show them the bit of paper? My visa expires in July too…
I thought I could apply for PR in Singapore? Or is the only option to apply here and stay here ’till I get PR? Ahhh I wish this was easier!
Bev, you will have to wait till you get your results before you can apply. What you should do once you get your final result is to ask your school department to issue you a letter of completion (since at this point of time you wont have your testamur yet) and then send that plus your transcript to the Australian Computer Society to get yourself assessed. Do this ASAP coz the ACS can take up to 10 weeks to assess you. Check out the ACS website (i think its http://www.acs.org.au) for more info on getting assessed. Only after you get your assessment will you be able to apply for your PR.
You will have to apply for your PR within 6 months of graduation (meaning 6 months from the day you get your result, NOT when you receive your testamur). If not you will be required to fulfill the requirement of having at least 2,3 years full time work experience before you can apply. You will also need to get a medical checkup, xray, police checks with both the Australian Police and Singapore Police. You should do these while waiting for the ACS assessment to come back. Except for the check with the Singapore Police, you wont be able to do that till you send in your PR application coz they require an official letter stating the reason for you requesting the police check before they will do it.
I’m pretty sure you can do everything in Singapore if you like but it will probably be a lot easier and faster to get everything done here. Most students here apply for theirs while in Australia. You might want to find a migration agent to get some advice. Also when you apply for your PR, they will grant you a bridging visa that will allow you to stay in Australia till your PR is granted. You will not be able to travel out of Australia on this bridging visa. However if you want to travel during this period of time, I think you can apply for another type of visa but you’ll have to pay extra.
Anyway it’s quite a lot of stuff and can get a little overwhelming. Email me if you got more questions. 🙂
OMG that was *so* helpful, thank you!! Now at least I know where to start.. so that’s all I have to do? What are you up to atm? Hopefully I’ll get my final result straight after my exams and can start applying straightaway. It sounds like such a drawn-out process 🙁
Yeah it is a pretty long process. You can also check out the DIMIA website for more information on the PR application. If you go to the Immigration Department in Sydney you can purchase a booklet with the information you need with all the application forms inside. Think it cost around $10. I’m still waiting for my assessment from the ACS. My Masters course is not finished yet but I get a Graduate Diploma after 1 year of study so I’m using that to apply rather than wait till I get my final semester results. I’m getting a solicitor to help me out with my application though. Expensive but saves me from having to bother with all the details.
Man… I checked out immi.gov.au and my head’s spinning.. there’s so much stuff!! Can I safely assume I”ll make up the 115 needed for the Overseas Independant Skilled STudent requirement? That’s what you’re applying as as well, right?
I guess my first step is to get a transcript of my results when they come out and give it to ACS.. hopefully the results will be out in about a month like they usually are.
Hey btw, when you graduate, do you have to give a form into Uni to ask to graduate.. or would they just send me a letter going “Yay, you’ve graduated, here’s the details of your ceremony!”?
Man, it’s tedious… do you intend to live here though? I want to work here but only for a few years.. just getting PR as a sort of ‘buffer’ in case I decide to come back and work some more 🙂
yeah you should make it. as long as the ACS assesses you and gives you a nominated occupation worth 60 points you’ll be fine. you get another 30 points for your age, 20 for english language competency and another 5 for graduating in an australian uni i think.
when you graduate you have to fill in an award application form i believe. not sure about UNSW but my previous and current uni requires the same. you’ll have to fill in whether you’re attending the graduation ceremony, which one you’re planning on attending etc etc. just go to your admin office and ask for it. think you can probably fill it up now since it’s your last semester.
i’m not planning on staying here for good, probably work for a few years like you. my parents are currently in NZ so i’ll be closer to them over here in Australia. plus paul is here of coz. 🙂
I’m glad I qualify *whew*
But man, I wish they’d just go “come to your grad ceremony” and just knock on my door and give me my PR! I’m lazy 😛
You’re in an awesome situation.. I still don’t know what I’ll do. Guess I’ll stay wherever I’m offered a job. Dunno about Chris though 🙁
lol! i know what you mean too, its such a hassle! but i just got my assessment back today! so surprising coz it has only been about 5 weeks. anyway the letter said i’m eligible to apply under the occupation of systems programmer. bleah i hate programming but i dont actually have to go into the field of what’s nominated for it so doesnt matter. now i just need to go for my medical and xray. yay! 🙂
Wow that was quick! Ahh.. so the assessment actually tells you what occupation to list youself as eligible for, right? What degree did you do btw? I wonder if they’ll put something horrible for me :T
You’re lucky though, looks like you’ll get your PR real soon! Doyou know the average time of waiting after application to get it? i’m hoping am onth or something *crosses fingers*
i’m doing my master in IT now but i applied with my graduate diploma in software engineering which i got after doing 8 subjects.
you mean the waiting time after sending in your PR application? i’m not too sure but i have a friend who got his earlier this year and he said it took less than a month.
Ahhh… similar sort of degree to mine then, well, to do with computers anyway! I’m so happy I never have to program anything else for the rest of my life! Really sick of it…
Man, I hope I get my PR in a month or so, that would be fantastic! Heard it generally takes about 10 months tho 🙁
same here! i’m sick of programming too. its so boring to just sit in front of your computer all day and tear your hair out trying to debug your program.
10 months? thats awfully long! i’m pretty sure my friend started doing his in dec/jan and got it by april. so i would say whole process around 5 months max. basically once you send in your assessment application quickly go do your medical and police checks as well as get the rest of your documents ready. then once the assessment comes back you’ll be able to send your PR application out right away.
awww .. *squee* that’s awfully sweet 🙂 hugs to you babe!
Huggies back! I was in a feel-the-love mood 🙂
Thanks 🙂 I like the way you write – interesting, very non-pretentious and you’re not afraid of saying what’s on your mind. Also, you’re into the girly stuffs too so that’s definitely a plus plus 🙂
Awww i’m glad you think that! Someone actually once (anonymous, of course) said I “talk to much about myself and my life”. But, er, it’s a JOURNAL.. where you’re supposed to talk about yourself, your thoughts, your activities during the day, etc.. didn’t really understand that 😉
Feeling so touched and sweet now. *^_^*
Okay… I’ll try to make my SG slang more understandable next time? heh! =P
Heheh nooo keep it the way it is ‘cos it’s fun to read! Just reminds me of home and my friends back home 🙂 Your “yaya swapper” was hilarious, hehehe
Wah kaoz, don’t mention that yaya swapper….
MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL.
So young and ignorant.. kiddos nowadays are so…. *strangles myself first*!
Yeah.. 99% of MUAers are nice, but 1% just make you go, “WHAT?!?!”
Good thing you didn’t work anything out with her!
Oh man, if that ever happens, I’ll prob. kill myself first! LOL
awww bev, we love u too 🙂
i still read your entries too! just too tired most of the time to comment, i’ll try and update more :p
Yeah, I ‘lurk’ a lot too.. most of the time I can’t think of anything intelligent or witty to say to people’s entries!
You are so sweet beverly!!! I know i dont comment too much but i only get to check my journal and comments once or twice a week but ill try and comment more i do read your journal though!!!! heeh 🙂 I usually write normal is real life and as im always on the go i just type in short point in my journal im lazy i know haha BUT we definetly have to meet up!! I LOVE IT HOW WERE SO SIMILAR AS WELL 😉 but your definetly the make up queen!!! mwa 😉
Hehe it’d be awesome to catch up.. my exams finish just before mid-July, will you be free around then? We can meet up in the city or Chatswood or something for a blast around the shops, or we can organise something where other *ahem* like-minded girls like us can get together for a shop. I’ve met a couple of awesome girls on Vogue/MUA that I always meet up with, I’m sure you’ll like them too!
You are so sweet beverly!!! I know i dont comment too much but i only get to check my journal and comments once or twice a week but ill try and comment more i do read your journal though!!!! heeh 🙂 I usually write normal is real life and as im always on the go i just type in short point in my journal im lazy i know haha BUT we definetly have to meet up!! I LOVE IT HOW WERE SO SIMILAR AS WELL 😉 but your definetly the make up queen!!! mwa 😉
Hehe it’d be awesome to catch up.. my exams finish just before mid-July, will you be free around then? We can meet up in the city or Chatswood or something for a blast around the shops, or we can organise something where other *ahem* like-minded girls like us can get together for a shop. I’ve met a couple of awesome girls on Vogue/MUA that I always meet up with, I’m sure you’ll like them too!
AWWWW!!! 😀 *hugs*
ME TOO! I feel so loved. *MUAK* beverly.
turns out, it was more like about 90 bucks USD… =(
Anyway, I think if I don’t get payment within one month, she’s going to have to find some way to vomit it out. I think I’ve waited long ehoguh. So happy though you sold your becca blush!
You’re going to believe this.. she wrote me an email bitching about you, saying you took ages to reply to her, etc. I’m going to write back and say even if you were a COMPLETE BITCH to her, she has no reason to complain because SHE’S the one who took over a year (!!) to pay you back. And I’m going to say that if you ever posted this on MUA, who are the MUAers going to support? Can’t believe she actually tried to turn the tables on you and say you were the evil person :O
I’d insist she pay you back of you’ll be calling her parents. Her address is easily available (can ask any of her previous swappers or people that she still owes) and from there you can find out her # easily enough.
LOL..OMG. when was this?
this is so funny. she’s been seemingly nice lately…we’ll see.
when are you going back to SG and for how long? i think ill give her a deadline. if i dont get money by so and so ill send beverly over, LOL. 🙂 heheheh..
Like 1 or 2 days ago! Went into a whole spiel about you.. I think she’s barmy. MAKE SURE she pays you back k? It makes me boil to see her take advantage of you for a year..;(
Will be back in SG mid-july 😛
VUNDAFOOOOL! If I’m not paid by then I’m bringing out my bitch-side..No kidding. =\ Supposedly, I already am to her, so I guess, is there any word to describe it?….
=) Whatever. I just know never to deal with her again. I think in the long run, I’m still going to leave her a neutral. Though, she’s probably going to leave me a retaliatory. =\ =\
Here ya go… I didn’t tell her I’m sending you this so don’t mention this to her if possible k? Just start getting quite serious and firm with her. I was nice and sweet for 4 months and she jerked me around. THen the instant I got pissed off and posted about her, she was MORE than happy to send me the money. Ugh
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Hi Gayle,
You see, regardless of how the other swapper is.. if she were to make it public on Swap Tawk or on the MUA boards that she was waiting a year for you to pay her back, everyone would say you were at fault. If you sent her a bank draft but it didn’t get to her, she would say she received no payment, which is true. And that only takes a week or two, so you can cancel it and send a money order or cash straight after, which would mean you would take a month max to pay her back. I don’t see how you can justify taking 15 months to pay someone back – it’s really not that difficult to send money that you already owe!
As far as I know, she’s been patient with you but I don’t think she’s going to wait any longer, especially after she heard about the same problem I had. For her sake and your sake, PLEASE pay her back this week and dont’ drag it on any longer – really, it would make everyone’s jaws drop if she posted publicly and said you haven’t paid her back after 15 months, yet you’ve been arranging other cp’s and swapping the entire time. It’s like a slap in the face and if I were her, I would be calling your parents up and demanding to be paid back, because over a year is just unbelievable 🙁
I hope you’ll do the mature and right thing about this. That swapper is also a student and doesn’t deserve to be lied to and taken advantage of for over a year.
Beverly
—–Original Message—–
From: Gayle Khoo [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, 5 June 2003 2:28 PM
To: BEVERLY =)
Subject: Becca blush
oh dear beverly.
for jenbabe’s case, please ask her specifically whether we made payment in the first place. =| it’s just upsetting and irritating to keep explaining the story behind it all. It’s not abt whether me and my friend have the money to pay her or what..it’s just a matter of fact that we did SEND HER A bank draft but the thing went missing halfway. And so, of course jen claimed we didnt make payment. It’s very complicating which is why , it’s over a year now that we havent settled it. Cos the purchase was made by me and another friend. If u remember Lela. -she did a swap with you of the VS bikini long time ago…yeah. And in case you’re not aware, Jen has an attitude problem with settling purchases. She’s one of those who takes helluva long time to reply a single mail and end up waiting for weeks later then reply and came up with sickening xcuses like she’s down with cold and bad flu..hello? U think we’re that patient to wait for your mails ? well, all i hav to say is, she herself too, have bad swap ettiquette, but dont pretend/act so angelic as if you’re all good but in fact, she isint. =] Sorry bev, since u mentioned about jen’s case, i’d to tell you the whole story. And now that, you’ve had a really bad experience with me, and that i’m on bad swapper list, the rest of the girls are gonna rule me out. But i cant do anything about it..yeah?
Hear you soon.
Gayle
aww *feels loved* and feeling loved right now means a ton. 🙂 You’re the sweetest bev.
AWWWW!!! 😀 *hugs*
Aww I feel the same way! I actually admire the fact that you are not into politics, your normal in my world. Everyone I know talks about USA politics and well.. It gets rather boring, which is why I post them on my journal so that I dont get carried away in real life.
USA Politics creates enemies more then friends, so your in a perfect position everyone loves you and its because your real. You like make up like all of us girls and you love style and beauty like us girls and cooking those fab meals and deserts and your day to day life is always so fun to read.
I often read your journal and I think “Man I bet its nice to get out and have fun like that” I dont get much freedom because I have kids so its fun reading about you taking advantage of yours!
And your pictures are always so cool, I love the family pictures, I always wonder what it would be like to meet them!!
I think we have been online friends for almost 2 years? I could be wrong but I remember you from a website called http://www.laundromatic.net (you know the “dont have a different opinion then us” group)! LOL im kidding…. Ok… No im serious! LOL.
Heh.. “normal” to you, but “uninformed and oblivious” to others. I don’t really care though – I openly admit I’m not a scrap interested in politics. I don’t know a bit about US politics and know minimal stuff about SG/AU politics. Just doesn’t seem to bother me but I guess I’ll sit up and take notice of issues once they start affecting me.. like when I start working and having children.
You don’t get much opportunity to just do whatever you want, but you DO have 2 gorgeous kids instead.. somehow, I know what I’d choose! Not yet for me though.. maybe in 5 years I’ll think about having kids 😛
*lmao* at the Laundro comment!! oh geez you’re funny 😛
😛 yeah I was the same way about politics when I was younger and single. I read a lot of books but I still didnt make up my mind about things until i was married!
ME TOO! I feel so loved. *MUAK* beverly.
turns out, it was more like about 90 bucks USD… =(
Anyway, I think if I don’t get payment within one month, she’s going to have to find some way to vomit it out. I think I’ve waited long ehoguh. So happy though you sold your becca blush!
You’re going to believe this.. she wrote me an email bitching about you, saying you took ages to reply to her, etc. I’m going to write back and say even if you were a COMPLETE BITCH to her, she has no reason to complain because SHE’S the one who took over a year (!!) to pay you back. And I’m going to say that if you ever posted this on MUA, who are the MUAers going to support? Can’t believe she actually tried to turn the tables on you and say you were the evil person :O
I’d insist she pay you back of you’ll be calling her parents. Her address is easily available (can ask any of her previous swappers or people that she still owes) and from there you can find out her # easily enough.
LOL..OMG. when was this?
this is so funny. she’s been seemingly nice lately…we’ll see.
when are you going back to SG and for how long? i think ill give her a deadline. if i dont get money by so and so ill send beverly over, LOL. 🙂 heheheh..
Like 1 or 2 days ago! Went into a whole spiel about you.. I think she’s barmy. MAKE SURE she pays you back k? It makes me boil to see her take advantage of you for a year..;(
Will be back in SG mid-july 😛
VUNDAFOOOOL! If I’m not paid by then I’m bringing out my bitch-side..No kidding. =\ Supposedly, I already am to her, so I guess, is there any word to describe it?….
=) Whatever. I just know never to deal with her again. I think in the long run, I’m still going to leave her a neutral. Though, she’s probably going to leave me a retaliatory. =\ =\
Here ya go… I didn’t tell her I’m sending you this so don’t mention this to her if possible k? Just start getting quite serious and firm with her. I was nice and sweet for 4 months and she jerked me around. THen the instant I got pissed off and posted about her, she was MORE than happy to send me the money. Ugh
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Hi Gayle,
You see, regardless of how the other swapper is.. if she were to make it public on Swap Tawk or on the MUA boards that she was waiting a year for you to pay her back, everyone would say you were at fault. If you sent her a bank draft but it didn’t get to her, she would say she received no payment, which is true. And that only takes a week or two, so you can cancel it and send a money order or cash straight after, which would mean you would take a month max to pay her back. I don’t see how you can justify taking 15 months to pay someone back – it’s really not that difficult to send money that you already owe!
As far as I know, she’s been patient with you but I don’t think she’s going to wait any longer, especially after she heard about the same problem I had. For her sake and your sake, PLEASE pay her back this week and dont’ drag it on any longer – really, it would make everyone’s jaws drop if she posted publicly and said you haven’t paid her back after 15 months, yet you’ve been arranging other cp’s and swapping the entire time. It’s like a slap in the face and if I were her, I would be calling your parents up and demanding to be paid back, because over a year is just unbelievable 🙁
I hope you’ll do the mature and right thing about this. That swapper is also a student and doesn’t deserve to be lied to and taken advantage of for over a year.
Beverly
—–Original Message—–
From: Gayle Khoo [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, 5 June 2003 2:28 PM
To: BEVERLY =)
Subject: Becca blush
oh dear beverly.
for jenbabe’s case, please ask her specifically whether we made payment in the first place. =| it’s just upsetting and irritating to keep explaining the story behind it all. It’s not abt whether me and my friend have the money to pay her or what..it’s just a matter of fact that we did SEND HER A bank draft but the thing went missing halfway. And so, of course jen claimed we didnt make payment. It’s very complicating which is why , it’s over a year now that we havent settled it. Cos the purchase was made by me and another friend. If u remember Lela. -she did a swap with you of the VS bikini long time ago…yeah. And in case you’re not aware, Jen has an attitude problem with settling purchases. She’s one of those who takes helluva long time to reply a single mail and end up waiting for weeks later then reply and came up with sickening xcuses like she’s down with cold and bad flu..hello? U think we’re that patient to wait for your mails ? well, all i hav to say is, she herself too, have bad swap ettiquette, but dont pretend/act so angelic as if you’re all good but in fact, she isint. =] Sorry bev, since u mentioned about jen’s case, i’d to tell you the whole story. And now that, you’ve had a really bad experience with me, and that i’m on bad swapper list, the rest of the girls are gonna rule me out. But i cant do anything about it..yeah?
Hear you soon.
Gayle
aww *feels loved* and feeling loved right now means a ton. 🙂 You’re the sweetest bev.
Aw! This made me feel special, like part of the “chosen 19” or something! 🙂 I remember back when I met you, you were sooo friendly! You still are, but I just remember specifically how kind you were because its a trait that people don’t display as openly nowadays, especially through the itnernet where its hard to sometimes, with text! Haha, what I would do to be 5’4 or 5’5 🙂 But at least there is no limit to high a heel I can wear! Anyway I am rambling now, this was a very good idea! If I didn’t have 139 friends listed (eep) I might’ve done the same thing. But God knows once I accidentally list 129 of them, the other 10 will be the first ones to say they are forgotten! This friends’ list sure is a project!
I won’t tell your secret about how you don’t add friends. 🙂
Heheh… “youuuu are part of the Chosen Ones” *lol*!!
I’m 5’4.5″ but trust me, it’s really not tall enough. And if my heels are too high, it looks like i’m overcompensating for something :X hey, do you actually read your friend’s list entries? I have less than 20 and there are about 3 pages worth ot entries made a day between everyone! Plus I’ll forget what’s happening in each person’s life if I add more 😛
I actually do read all my friend’s entries. 🙂 Lucky for me I spend a lot of time on my computer.. so I check my friend’s list a couple times a day, and its not too overwhelming… however, when I go to Nick’s for the weekend and come back, I admit I have to do some skimming in some journals, because there are seriously close to, if not over 200 entries for me to catch up on. I feel like I never stop hitting the “back” button!
My journal is a constant flux though. 🙂 I will add pretty much anyone who asks, but I kinda consider them a “trial run”… and if they don’t catch & keep my interest after a month or so I remove them… because I don’t think its fair for me to list them as a friend if I am not reading their entries/life. At any given time I probably have like 15-10% of my list as trial runners, lol! Then I’ll do an occasionally cut, where I cut the ones that I didn’t feel I could relate to.. and caught myself skimming a lot..
I’ve got this down to a science I tell you!!! 🙂
Man you have perseverance.. I’d just give up after about 2 pages worth 😛 Unless I’m procrastinating of course! And I don’t like to start reading a new journal too ‘cos I don’t know anything about the person.. that’s why I just never add any new friends. Maybe I’m antisocial 😉
But boy, your journal is like a production line *lol*!
Aww I feel the same way! I actually admire the fact that you are not into politics, your normal in my world. Everyone I know talks about USA politics and well.. It gets rather boring, which is why I post them on my journal so that I dont get carried away in real life.
USA Politics creates enemies more then friends, so your in a perfect position everyone loves you and its because your real. You like make up like all of us girls and you love style and beauty like us girls and cooking those fab meals and deserts and your day to day life is always so fun to read.
I often read your journal and I think “Man I bet its nice to get out and have fun like that” I dont get much freedom because I have kids so its fun reading about you taking advantage of yours!
And your pictures are always so cool, I love the family pictures, I always wonder what it would be like to meet them!!
I think we have been online friends for almost 2 years? I could be wrong but I remember you from a website called http://www.laundromatic.net (you know the “dont have a different opinion then us” group)! LOL im kidding…. Ok… No im serious! LOL.
Heh.. “normal” to you, but “uninformed and oblivious” to others. I don’t really care though – I openly admit I’m not a scrap interested in politics. I don’t know a bit about US politics and know minimal stuff about SG/AU politics. Just doesn’t seem to bother me but I guess I’ll sit up and take notice of issues once they start affecting me.. like when I start working and having children.
You don’t get much opportunity to just do whatever you want, but you DO have 2 gorgeous kids instead.. somehow, I know what I’d choose! Not yet for me though.. maybe in 5 years I’ll think about having kids 😛
*lmao* at the Laundro comment!! oh geez you’re funny 😛
😛 yeah I was the same way about politics when I was younger and single. I read a lot of books but I still didnt make up my mind about things until i was married!
Aww Bev! I’m so amused/touched! 🙂 You’ve been a great friend too and as always, your journal is so interested with posts of our similiar interests! 🙂 I do update more often now, but I’m thinking of moving coz soooo many people know about my journal its kinda freaky.
Yeah same here.. all my offline friends know, Chris knows, my parents regularly read it. I don’t really have secrets so it’s ok, but if I DO have a secret one day I can’t say it! 😛
hi Bev! this is a really sweet entry 🙂 Thanks for the well wishes! And your journal was one of the first few LJs I started reading and I still love reading your entries 🙂 *take care!*
Heh, really? I think we ‘found’ each other on MUA first though.. it’s fun meeting fellow Singaporeans or Australians online, I just feel ‘closer’ to them ‘cos we can talk about certain things that Americans won’t understand! (like local food :P)
yes that’s true! that’s how i got linked to your LJ! 🙂
awww….thats so sweet of you. i love reading your entries too! and hopefully we’ll get to hang out when i find time to visit sydney! 🙂
Ya, you gotta try and come to Sydney! ‘Cos I’m stuck here and going anywhere else is out of the question :T Orrr.. will you be in SG after exams anytime? ‘Cos I’ll be back, not sure of exact dates though – haven’t even booked my tix!
how long will you be back for? i will be going back but i’m not sure when. i’m currently applying for my PR and i wont be allowed to travel after my student visa expires in july. meaning i will have to stay in australia till my PR is granted.
Oooooo… I’m in the same position as you. Could you help me out a bit? I want to apply for PR now too, what do I have to do? Such as, don’t I have to graduate first so I can show them the bit of paper? My visa expires in July too…
I thought I could apply for PR in Singapore? Or is the only option to apply here and stay here ’till I get PR? Ahhh I wish this was easier!
Bev, you will have to wait till you get your results before you can apply. What you should do once you get your final result is to ask your school department to issue you a letter of completion (since at this point of time you wont have your testamur yet) and then send that plus your transcript to the Australian Computer Society to get yourself assessed. Do this ASAP coz the ACS can take up to 10 weeks to assess you. Check out the ACS website (i think its http://www.acs.org.au) for more info on getting assessed. Only after you get your assessment will you be able to apply for your PR.
You will have to apply for your PR within 6 months of graduation (meaning 6 months from the day you get your result, NOT when you receive your testamur). If not you will be required to fulfill the requirement of having at least 2,3 years full time work experience before you can apply. You will also need to get a medical checkup, xray, police checks with both the Australian Police and Singapore Police. You should do these while waiting for the ACS assessment to come back. Except for the check with the Singapore Police, you wont be able to do that till you send in your PR application coz they require an official letter stating the reason for you requesting the police check before they will do it.
I’m pretty sure you can do everything in Singapore if you like but it will probably be a lot easier and faster to get everything done here. Most students here apply for theirs while in Australia. You might want to find a migration agent to get some advice. Also when you apply for your PR, they will grant you a bridging visa that will allow you to stay in Australia till your PR is granted. You will not be able to travel out of Australia on this bridging visa. However if you want to travel during this period of time, I think you can apply for another type of visa but you’ll have to pay extra.
Anyway it’s quite a lot of stuff and can get a little overwhelming. Email me if you got more questions. 🙂
OMG that was *so* helpful, thank you!! Now at least I know where to start.. so that’s all I have to do? What are you up to atm? Hopefully I’ll get my final result straight after my exams and can start applying straightaway. It sounds like such a drawn-out process 🙁
Yeah it is a pretty long process. You can also check out the DIMIA website for more information on the PR application. If you go to the Immigration Department in Sydney you can purchase a booklet with the information you need with all the application forms inside. Think it cost around $10. I’m still waiting for my assessment from the ACS. My Masters course is not finished yet but I get a Graduate Diploma after 1 year of study so I’m using that to apply rather than wait till I get my final semester results. I’m getting a solicitor to help me out with my application though. Expensive but saves me from having to bother with all the details.
Man… I checked out immi.gov.au and my head’s spinning.. there’s so much stuff!! Can I safely assume I”ll make up the 115 needed for the Overseas Independant Skilled STudent requirement? That’s what you’re applying as as well, right?
I guess my first step is to get a transcript of my results when they come out and give it to ACS.. hopefully the results will be out in about a month like they usually are.
Hey btw, when you graduate, do you have to give a form into Uni to ask to graduate.. or would they just send me a letter going “Yay, you’ve graduated, here’s the details of your ceremony!”?
Man, it’s tedious… do you intend to live here though? I want to work here but only for a few years.. just getting PR as a sort of ‘buffer’ in case I decide to come back and work some more 🙂
yeah you should make it. as long as the ACS assesses you and gives you a nominated occupation worth 60 points you’ll be fine. you get another 30 points for your age, 20 for english language competency and another 5 for graduating in an australian uni i think.
when you graduate you have to fill in an award application form i believe. not sure about UNSW but my previous and current uni requires the same. you’ll have to fill in whether you’re attending the graduation ceremony, which one you’re planning on attending etc etc. just go to your admin office and ask for it. think you can probably fill it up now since it’s your last semester.
i’m not planning on staying here for good, probably work for a few years like you. my parents are currently in NZ so i’ll be closer to them over here in Australia. plus paul is here of coz. 🙂
I’m glad I qualify *whew*
But man, I wish they’d just go “come to your grad ceremony” and just knock on my door and give me my PR! I’m lazy 😛
You’re in an awesome situation.. I still don’t know what I’ll do. Guess I’ll stay wherever I’m offered a job. Dunno about Chris though 🙁
lol! i know what you mean too, its such a hassle! but i just got my assessment back today! so surprising coz it has only been about 5 weeks. anyway the letter said i’m eligible to apply under the occupation of systems programmer. bleah i hate programming but i dont actually have to go into the field of what’s nominated for it so doesnt matter. now i just need to go for my medical and xray. yay! 🙂
Wow that was quick! Ahh.. so the assessment actually tells you what occupation to list youself as eligible for, right? What degree did you do btw? I wonder if they’ll put something horrible for me :T
You’re lucky though, looks like you’ll get your PR real soon! Doyou know the average time of waiting after application to get it? i’m hoping am onth or something *crosses fingers*
i’m doing my master in IT now but i applied with my graduate diploma in software engineering which i got after doing 8 subjects.
you mean the waiting time after sending in your PR application? i’m not too sure but i have a friend who got his earlier this year and he said it took less than a month.
Ahhh… similar sort of degree to mine then, well, to do with computers anyway! I’m so happy I never have to program anything else for the rest of my life! Really sick of it…
Man, I hope I get my PR in a month or so, that would be fantastic! Heard it generally takes about 10 months tho 🙁
same here! i’m sick of programming too. its so boring to just sit in front of your computer all day and tear your hair out trying to debug your program.
10 months? thats awfully long! i’m pretty sure my friend started doing his in dec/jan and got it by april. so i would say whole process around 5 months max. basically once you send in your assessment application quickly go do your medical and police checks as well as get the rest of your documents ready. then once the assessment comes back you’ll be able to send your PR application out right away.
Aw! This made me feel special, like part of the “chosen 19” or something! 🙂 I remember back when I met you, you were sooo friendly! You still are, but I just remember specifically how kind you were because its a trait that people don’t display as openly nowadays, especially through the itnernet where its hard to sometimes, with text! Haha, what I would do to be 5’4 or 5’5 🙂 But at least there is no limit to high a heel I can wear! Anyway I am rambling now, this was a very good idea! If I didn’t have 139 friends listed (eep) I might’ve done the same thing. But God knows once I accidentally list 129 of them, the other 10 will be the first ones to say they are forgotten! This friends’ list sure is a project!
I won’t tell your secret about how you don’t add friends. 🙂
Heheh… “youuuu are part of the Chosen Ones” *lol*!!
I’m 5’4.5″ but trust me, it’s really not tall enough. And if my heels are too high, it looks like i’m overcompensating for something :X hey, do you actually read your friend’s list entries? I have less than 20 and there are about 3 pages worth ot entries made a day between everyone! Plus I’ll forget what’s happening in each person’s life if I add more 😛
I actually do read all my friend’s entries. 🙂 Lucky for me I spend a lot of time on my computer.. so I check my friend’s list a couple times a day, and its not too overwhelming… however, when I go to Nick’s for the weekend and come back, I admit I have to do some skimming in some journals, because there are seriously close to, if not over 200 entries for me to catch up on. I feel like I never stop hitting the “back” button!
My journal is a constant flux though. 🙂 I will add pretty much anyone who asks, but I kinda consider them a “trial run”… and if they don’t catch & keep my interest after a month or so I remove them… because I don’t think its fair for me to list them as a friend if I am not reading their entries/life. At any given time I probably have like 15-10% of my list as trial runners, lol! Then I’ll do an occasionally cut, where I cut the ones that I didn’t feel I could relate to.. and caught myself skimming a lot..
I’ve got this down to a science I tell you!!! 🙂
Man you have perseverance.. I’d just give up after about 2 pages worth 😛 Unless I’m procrastinating of course! And I don’t like to start reading a new journal too ‘cos I don’t know anything about the person.. that’s why I just never add any new friends. Maybe I’m antisocial 😉
But boy, your journal is like a production line *lol*!
awww .. *squee* that’s awfully sweet 🙂 hugs to you babe!
Huggies back! I was in a feel-the-love mood 🙂
Thanks 🙂 I like the way you write – interesting, very non-pretentious and you’re not afraid of saying what’s on your mind. Also, you’re into the girly stuffs too so that’s definitely a plus plus 🙂
Awww i’m glad you think that! Someone actually once (anonymous, of course) said I “talk to much about myself and my life”. But, er, it’s a JOURNAL.. where you’re supposed to talk about yourself, your thoughts, your activities during the day, etc.. didn’t really understand that 😉
Feeling so touched and sweet now. *^_^*
Okay… I’ll try to make my SG slang more understandable next time? heh! =P
Heheh nooo keep it the way it is ‘cos it’s fun to read! Just reminds me of home and my friends back home 🙂 Your “yaya swapper” was hilarious, hehehe
Wah kaoz, don’t mention that yaya swapper….
MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL.
So young and ignorant.. kiddos nowadays are so…. *strangles myself first*!
Yeah.. 99% of MUAers are nice, but 1% just make you go, “WHAT?!?!”
Good thing you didn’t work anything out with her!
Oh man, if that ever happens, I’ll prob. kill myself first! LOL
awww bev, we love u too 🙂
i still read your entries too! just too tired most of the time to comment, i’ll try and update more :p
Yeah, I ‘lurk’ a lot too.. most of the time I can’t think of anything intelligent or witty to say to people’s entries!
Aww Bev! I’m so amused/touched! 🙂 You’ve been a great friend too and as always, your journal is so interested with posts of our similiar interests! 🙂 I do update more often now, but I’m thinking of moving coz soooo many people know about my journal its kinda freaky.
Yeah same here.. all my offline friends know, Chris knows, my parents regularly read it. I don’t really have secrets so it’s ok, but if I DO have a secret one day I can’t say it! 😛
hi Bev! this is a really sweet entry 🙂 Thanks for the well wishes! And your journal was one of the first few LJs I started reading and I still love reading your entries 🙂 *take care!*
Heh, really? I think we ‘found’ each other on MUA first though.. it’s fun meeting fellow Singaporeans or Australians online, I just feel ‘closer’ to them ‘cos we can talk about certain things that Americans won’t understand! (like local food :P)
yes that’s true! that’s how i got linked to your LJ! 🙂
awww….thats so sweet of you. i love reading your entries too! and hopefully we’ll get to hang out when i find time to visit sydney! 🙂
Ya, you gotta try and come to Sydney! ‘Cos I’m stuck here and going anywhere else is out of the question :T Orrr.. will you be in SG after exams anytime? ‘Cos I’ll be back, not sure of exact dates though – haven’t even booked my tix!
how long will you be back for? i will be going back but i’m not sure when. i’m currently applying for my PR and i wont be allowed to travel after my student visa expires in july. meaning i will have to stay in australia till my PR is granted.
Oooooo… I’m in the same position as you. Could you help me out a bit? I want to apply for PR now too, what do I have to do? Such as, don’t I have to graduate first so I can show them the bit of paper? My visa expires in July too…
I thought I could apply for PR in Singapore? Or is the only option to apply here and stay here ’till I get PR? Ahhh I wish this was easier!
Bev, you will have to wait till you get your results before you can apply. What you should do once you get your final result is to ask your school department to issue you a letter of completion (since at this point of time you wont have your testamur yet) and then send that plus your transcript to the Australian Computer Society to get yourself assessed. Do this ASAP coz the ACS can take up to 10 weeks to assess you. Check out the ACS website (i think its http://www.acs.org.au) for more info on getting assessed. Only after you get your assessment will you be able to apply for your PR.
You will have to apply for your PR within 6 months of graduation (meaning 6 months from the day you get your result, NOT when you receive your testamur). If not you will be required to fulfill the requirement of having at least 2,3 years full time work experience before you can apply. You will also need to get a medical checkup, xray, police checks with both the Australian Police and Singapore Police. You should do these while waiting for the ACS assessment to come back. Except for the check with the Singapore Police, you wont be able to do that till you send in your PR application coz they require an official letter stating the reason for you requesting the police check before they will do it.
I’m pretty sure you can do everything in Singapore if you like but it will probably be a lot easier and faster to get everything done here. Most students here apply for theirs while in Australia. You might want to find a migration agent to get some advice. Also when you apply for your PR, they will grant you a bridging visa that will allow you to stay in Australia till your PR is granted. You will not be able to travel out of Australia on this bridging visa. However if you want to travel during this period of time, I think you can apply for another type of visa but you’ll have to pay extra.
Anyway it’s quite a lot of stuff and can get a little overwhelming. Email me if you got more questions. 🙂
OMG that was *so* helpful, thank you!! Now at least I know where to start.. so that’s all I have to do? What are you up to atm? Hopefully I’ll get my final result straight after my exams and can start applying straightaway. It sounds like such a drawn-out process 🙁
Yeah it is a pretty long process. You can also check out the DIMIA website for more information on the PR application. If you go to the Immigration Department in Sydney you can purchase a booklet with the information you need with all the application forms inside. Think it cost around $10. I’m still waiting for my assessment from the ACS. My Masters course is not finished yet but I get a Graduate Diploma after 1 year of study so I’m using that to apply rather than wait till I get my final semester results. I’m getting a solicitor to help me out with my application though. Expensive but saves me from having to bother with all the details.
Man… I checked out immi.gov.au and my head’s spinning.. there’s so much stuff!! Can I safely assume I”ll make up the 115 needed for the Overseas Independant Skilled STudent requirement? That’s what you’re applying as as well, right?
I guess my first step is to get a transcript of my results when they come out and give it to ACS.. hopefully the results will be out in about a month like they usually are.
Hey btw, when you graduate, do you have to give a form into Uni to ask to graduate.. or would they just send me a letter going “Yay, you’ve graduated, here’s the details of your ceremony!”?
Man, it’s tedious… do you intend to live here though? I want to work here but only for a few years.. just getting PR as a sort of ‘buffer’ in case I decide to come back and work some more 🙂
yeah you should make it. as long as the ACS assesses you and gives you a nominated occupation worth 60 points you’ll be fine. you get another 30 points for your age, 20 for english language competency and another 5 for graduating in an australian uni i think.
when you graduate you have to fill in an award application form i believe. not sure about UNSW but my previous and current uni requires the same. you’ll have to fill in whether you’re attending the graduation ceremony, which one you’re planning on attending etc etc. just go to your admin office and ask for it. think you can probably fill it up now since it’s your last semester.
i’m not planning on staying here for good, probably work for a few years like you. my parents are currently in NZ so i’ll be closer to them over here in Australia. plus paul is here of coz. 🙂
I’m glad I qualify *whew*
But man, I wish they’d just go “come to your grad ceremony” and just knock on my door and give me my PR! I’m lazy 😛
You’re in an awesome situation.. I still don’t know what I’ll do. Guess I’ll stay wherever I’m offered a job. Dunno about Chris though 🙁
lol! i know what you mean too, its such a hassle! but i just got my assessment back today! so surprising coz it has only been about 5 weeks. anyway the letter said i’m eligible to apply under the occupation of systems programmer. bleah i hate programming but i dont actually have to go into the field of what’s nominated for it so doesnt matter. now i just need to go for my medical and xray. yay! 🙂
Wow that was quick! Ahh.. so the assessment actually tells you what occupation to list youself as eligible for, right? What degree did you do btw? I wonder if they’ll put something horrible for me :T
You’re lucky though, looks like you’ll get your PR real soon! Doyou know the average time of waiting after application to get it? i’m hoping am onth or something *crosses fingers*
i’m doing my master in IT now but i applied with my graduate diploma in software engineering which i got after doing 8 subjects.
you mean the waiting time after sending in your PR application? i’m not too sure but i have a friend who got his earlier this year and he said it took less than a month.
Ahhh… similar sort of degree to mine then, well, to do with computers anyway! I’m so happy I never have to program anything else for the rest of my life! Really sick of it…
Man, I hope I get my PR in a month or so, that would be fantastic! Heard it generally takes about 10 months tho 🙁
same here! i’m sick of programming too. its so boring to just sit in front of your computer all day and tear your hair out trying to debug your program.
10 months? thats awfully long! i’m pretty sure my friend started doing his in dec/jan and got it by april. so i would say whole process around 5 months max. basically once you send in your assessment application quickly go do your medical and police checks as well as get the rest of your documents ready. then once the assessment comes back you’ll be able to send your PR application out right away.
awww .. *squee* that’s awfully sweet 🙂 hugs to you babe!
Huggies back! I was in a feel-the-love mood 🙂
Thanks 🙂 I like the way you write – interesting, very non-pretentious and you’re not afraid of saying what’s on your mind. Also, you’re into the girly stuffs too so that’s definitely a plus plus 🙂
Awww i’m glad you think that! Someone actually once (anonymous, of course) said I “talk to much about myself and my life”. But, er, it’s a JOURNAL.. where you’re supposed to talk about yourself, your thoughts, your activities during the day, etc.. didn’t really understand that 😉
Feeling so touched and sweet now. *^_^*
Okay… I’ll try to make my SG slang more understandable next time? heh! =P
Heheh nooo keep it the way it is ‘cos it’s fun to read! Just reminds me of home and my friends back home 🙂 Your “yaya swapper” was hilarious, hehehe
Wah kaoz, don’t mention that yaya swapper….
MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL.
So young and ignorant.. kiddos nowadays are so…. *strangles myself first*!
Yeah.. 99% of MUAers are nice, but 1% just make you go, “WHAT?!?!”
Good thing you didn’t work anything out with her!
Oh man, if that ever happens, I’ll prob. kill myself first! LOL
awww bev, we love u too 🙂
i still read your entries too! just too tired most of the time to comment, i’ll try and update more :p
Yeah, I ‘lurk’ a lot too.. most of the time I can’t think of anything intelligent or witty to say to people’s entries!